WHT Webhostingtalk [errrr.. issue thing]

[blue27]

It seems like it's official

WHT supports child molesters.


Sad but true.
There was a thread on WHT in which an admitted child molester tried to apoloigze to a member for his acts, and every time I and others tried to expand on the issue the threads got deleted.

SWR, SoftwareReview it seems was the one who did the deleting and the one who suspended my account at WHT for speaking the truth.

This is not the first time that SWR has done this. He is on the payroll at WHT and will censor any negative thread that he doesn't agree with.

Gen-T, a member and moderator of WHT admitted to desiring to molest and RAPE a child but for some reason he is being protected by WHT.

It is a sad and sick matter but because WHT makes so much money from advertising they choose to censor it and BAN long standing members who question their censorship.

[tranz]

Question a mods actions on WHT and get banned? Naaaaa, would "never" happen. Nuff said...

[blue27]

This goes WAY beyond simply questioning SWR actions Tranz.

This is a matter of an illegal act being protected by WHT.
Gen-T has a history of this kind of thing and WHT chose to allow him to continue posting there.

[ub3r]

How exactly do you figure he's a child molester?

Gen-T sent an email to vito knowing only that vito has a daughter. In that email, gen-t said he ****ed vito's daughter. later, we learned that vito's daughter is actually 11. Sending out the email in a drunk state, he didn't know how old she was. For all he knew, she could have been in her early 20s by now.

It's not like he ransacked vito's house, and raped his daughter. He hasn't had any real life contact with any members of vito's family.

[Chicken]

Well, let's understand that there's a pretty big gap between "WHT supporting child molesters" and someone at the forum deleting threads discussing the topic.

I really don't know anything about the issue, nor about Gen-T, but I thought I'd point that out. Also, while we try to be as open to discussing relatively any topic concerning the web hosting industry (and WHT certainly qualifies as being a part of that), there's a fine line between discussing other forums and sites in the context of your experiences, web hosting, etc., and simply bringing one's issues, concerns, troubles, etc. here from another site.

From an admin point of view, understand that they are not obligated to permit threads to continue nor exist. Likewise concerning members. If someone needs help, they need to get help (and that's what I get from your post more than anything).

EDIT: Above was posted before ub3r's post. His post made it sound like the whole issue was more of an angry/drunken accident (for lack of a better term). Besides, I don't believe that "desiring to molest and RAPE a child" is an illegal act in itself.

The thread title probably needs to be changed, though I'm just not sure what to yet.

[blue27]

I understand Chicken.
There is no obligation to permit all threads. But since one of the many threads deleted regarding this issue was posted by Gen-T himself, apologizing for his actions, and since it was posted in the lounge I think it should have remained.

WHT has a history of protecting certain individuals for whatever personal reasons and that is their right, but when it comes down to protecting someone like this it is unacceptable.

<<ADMIN NOTE: Portions of this post were removed and/or edited. If this sort of flaming was happening, then it wouldn't surprise me if the thread was tossed.>>

[Equonix]

SoftwareReview

Isn't it SoftwareRevenue :p

WHT has had a history with protecting certain members. Whether they are getting paid to or not. But it may need looking into. I have certain reasons for disliking WHT in general however won't state them.

[Aussie Bob]

Originally Posted by blue27

WHT supports child molesters.

I would have to disagree with that statement.

There was a thread on WHT in which an admitted child molester tried to apoloigze to a member for his acts

Gen-T is not an "admitted child molester". No act of molestation was committed by Gen-T.

. . . and every time I and others tried to expand on the issue the threads got deleted.

That was one of those threads that should have been closed (but not deleted) from the first post. No good discussion was ever going to come from it.

This is not the first time that SWR has done this. He is on the payroll at WHT and will censor any negative thread that he doesn't agree with.

It's never been confirmed that Dennis is paid by the owners of WHT. I've asked that question on WHT several times, but it never gets answered. For the hours he puts into WHT, he should be getting paid, imo.

Gen-T, a member and moderator of WHT . . .

Gen-T was never a moderator of WHT. He was a "Community Guide". They did not have moderation powers as such, and were merely there to guide folks, and not to moderate. That task was given to the "Community Liaisons", who then worked under the "Community Leaders".

[Chicken]

Originally Posted by Aussie Bob

It's never been confirmed that Dennis is paid by the owners of WHT. I've asked that question on WHT several times, but it never gets answered.

C'mon now Bob, you're kidding right? You think Dennis is an unpaid volunteer? Your question never gets answered because "admitting" to being paid would make those, "Don't come down on the moderators, they're just lowly volunteers!" post seem a bit silly, nor to mention cause non-paid volunteers to think to themselves, "Hmmmm, how come I'm not being paid?" The moral fiber of WHT went south just before Matt sold it to Robert, get used to it. Love it or leave it. (How many posts did I have? How many posts have I made last month or year?)

Not that this has anything to do with the topic...

Originally Posted by blue27

I understand Chicken. There is no obligation to permit all threads. But since one of the many threads deleted regarding this issue was posted by Gen-T himself, apologizing for his actions, and since it was posted in the lounge I think it should have remained.

Actually that should be, "There is no obligation to permit any thread." You think it should have remained, they didn't, no one is right or wrong, but they run the place. Sorry, but I'm not on your side with this one, but I'm willing to leave this thread open so that you're able to discuss it, then go back and talk it all over, as I know you've been a long-time member there, and that matters to you.

[blue27]

Let me rephrase that then to "In my opinion that thread should have remained".

I'm not going to persue the issue on your forum I just wanted point out certain things.

[Aussie Bob]

Originally Posted by Chicken

C'mon now Bob, you're kidding right? You think Dennis is an unpaid volunteer?

It's just never been confirmed, so I can't be 100% certian. I hope he's getting something for all the hours he puts into WHT. I've always maintained that WHT mods should be a paid position, and not volunteering their time to a for-profit company.

Not that this has anything to do with the topic...

Agreed.

[Q151]

Since I recognize many of you from WebHostingTalk, I'm sure you all know what I think of them. I agree with you Chicken, that something soured over there over the summer.

[Andrew]

The thread title probably needs to be changed, though I'm just not sure what to yet.

Change it to anything other then what the title currently is...

Accusing someone of such a hideous crime without absolute proof isnt commendable...

Representing a drunken rant (that was later apologized for) as anything close to the physical act of molestation isnt appropriate and degrades the experiences of those who have actually suffered such fates.

I really dont know anything about this incident, other then what Ive read here, but, these sorts of accusations should not be made lightly and personally, I think this entire thread should be removed. I wouldnt want the responsibility of falsely equating ones name with such a serious offence.

[nameslave]

I could have written A LOT more regarding some apparent wrongdoings *elsewhere*, but as a HostHideout moderator, I would rather suggest we build a nicer and more professional community *here*. In real life, when we are mistreated in a certain place, we never go back but move on to somewhere equally good if not better.

[Chicken]

Originally Posted by Andrew

Change it to anything other then what the title currently is...

Is that better? I really have no idea what to call it, so there you have it.

I think this entire thread should be removed.

If it would have been posted by some yahoo fresh off the web hosting shrimp boat, it would've already been there. I'm guessing it will end up there shortly, but due to who posted it (someone who has probably as many posts as I do there), it can stay until it is resolved and an understanding is reached.